Bullets were cylindrical and long, whilst Grooves were deep (BP Practice). The 45-70 is 53mm long, so is probably too short for the 8x58R. Menu. Thanks for any help. Bore is excellent. of 680 m/s (2,234 feet per second) ,with respect due to the many. Guess I'll pass up any 8x58R Rolling Block too, I might come across. Pricing Information. This Remington rolling block military rifle is most likely a militia rifle. AutoCheck vehicle history reports deliver information on reported accidents, odometer . $695.00 Compare Husqvarna Single - C49192 High(Bid) Time(Left) GunAuction.com Master List. using the Dane bullet was developed for these rifles. Originally chambered in 12.17mm Rimfire, these rifles were converted by the Swedish military to use the centrefire 8X58R cartridge. At the same time Norway and Sweden also used this round but soon abandoned it. SOLD 200.00 CAD to Freemanriveradventur + (30.00) buyer's premium + applicable fees & taxes. $83.19 As low as $70.66. It was originally manufactured by Husqvarna in 1873 as the M67 in 12.17x42R (rimfire). The Model 1901/02 Remington Rolling Block was made for higher pressure rifle ammunition than the earlier 1868 and 1879 rifles. All matching except breech block. Some had been de-milled by having the chamber welded and were offered at $195.00. 0. Add to Cart. Inspired by the great Remington Rolling Block design, the author decided to build a buffalo gun for hunting and shooting cowboy action single-shot long-range events. Description: Rifle 8x58R Barrel length: 30 3/8 inch Length of pull: 13 5/8 inch Weight: 7.64 lbs Condition Good, bit dark bore Shows handling marks Overall good ++ condition SKU: 1527 . I have some brass now for a 8x58r Swedish Arsenal Rebuild. Overloading 8x58RD Swedish Rolling Block Rifles. By. From What I understand some countries developed hotter loads in the same cartridge (up to 46 000psi THESE ARE NOT FOR USE IN ROLLING BLOCKS. Add to Wishlist Remove from Wishlist. 1.461 overall tenon length. It started life in 1874 as an 11mm military musket and was arsenal converted to the 8X58R military round in 1891 as the Swedes updated their military stock. Description: DANISH MODEL 1867 ROLLING BLOCK .45 DANISH (11.7x51R) MILITARY RIFLE. The Remington rolling block is an American design, but was adopted by the two Scandinavian armies in 1867. Oldtimer Offline ASSRA Member #10876 Posts: 973 Location: Easton, CA Joined: Nov 9 th, 2014. Loads for the 8x58R Danish Krag-Jrgensen. There is plenty of confusion about this, mostly due to contradictory load data. I acquired my first Swedish Model 1867 Rolling Block rifle in early 2002. Quickview. In 1867 the receivers for these were made from Iron but in 1872 this changed to Steel. Re: Rolling-Block original. Item Number: AL5364. 8x60S Mauser Rimless . now there are some details that have to be cut. It chambers a .45-70 cartridge perfectly. 8x58R; 8x64S; 9.3x57; 9.3x62; Military Rifles; Combination Guns; Shotguns. Mine appears to be in unisued condition after it was converted to the 8x58r. MARSTAR Canada customer service commitment. $35.00. He chose a No. Bite the bullet and get some H4895, it is the only rifle powder recommended by the maker for reduced loads in rifles and it is very compatible in pressure curve for cast pullets, giving a "soft start" that enhances cast bullet accuracy. SOLD This is a very good example of the Swedish M67/89 military rolling block rifle in 8x58R Danish Krag. Our Rolling Block rifles are fantastic reproductions of one of the most popular cartridge guns and great rival of the Sharps in its time. 33 half stock rolling block rifle in 8x58R Sauer. Top PM Register To Reply. 7x57 Mauser (Remington) 2. THESE RIFLES WILL VARY FOR HEADSPACE! The 858mmR Danish Krag also known as the 858mmRD is a late 19th-century rimmed centerfire military rifle cartridge similar to other early smokeless powder designs. It will require some finishing. This is an ALL MATCHING Swedish Remington Model 1875 Rolling Block chambered in 8x58R comes with a bayonet, finish shows light discoloration on the barrel area, the furniture is in excellent condition with light use evidence, uncommon for surplus firearms of this kind, the bore is excellent condition, reflects light is clean and has good strong . Overall condition is very good. The largest of gun clubs and starters of these compititions that were very popular, and tested . Sale Sold out. It compared favorably to other cartridges of the time, including the 8x57J Mauser used in the German 1888 Commission rifle, the .303 British introduced that same year and the 8x50 Lebel, adopted by the French in 1886. (the long thin Mounting Screw available separately) $15.00. Gustav, Carl 8x58R Remington Rolling Block Service Rolling Block Rifle (Ambidextrous) - S/H Trade seller - Advertised for 527 days until 28/04/2021 for 795 . in most european countries 8x58 is not considered a black powder cartridge. A serious consideration is the maximum safe pressure for the rifles in question is going to be around 3200 Bar/46,500 PSI - CAUTION!! The bullet had three greasing rills and had . Made from 1877-1912. 8x58R Danish . The bore is bright and shiny with sharp . 8x58R Sauer Smokeless Ammunition Box of 20 . This gun has been sporterized (probably in Europe) very nicely with a two leaf rear sight and a nice ramp front sight. 10.03.2014 22:44. groove diameter of the barrel at the muzzle is 0.323" Brass n. Print Post. Start by getting a copy of Frank Barnes book: "Cartridges of the World." A wealth of info including some loading data and cartridge dimensions. Remington Rolling Block Danish 8X58R Description: Danish Rolling Block Model 1870 rifle. Its 30.5" barrel has approximately 70% plumb finish with some edge wear. Cleaning Kit; . Made by Carl Gustav 1871, updated to 8x58R Danish in 1889. It was briefly adopted by Norway and Sweden and remained the standard Danish service rifle cartridge from 1889 until 1945. Metal parts made of steel, produced in various calibers and different barrels lengths. The left side of the receiver is marked with the "Danish crown / script CR" over "M-1867". Oct 8 th, 2007 at 1:24am. 12-18-2011, 09:07 PM. The original caliber was 12.1742mm . 8x58R Danish (Husqvarna) 3. I believe that about 10,000 of these rifles were built for the Swedish army. 8x58R. 8x58R Danish (Husqvarna) 06-04-2013 11:43 AM #6. Metal finish has light. Original cleaning rod for the 8x58R military rifle. The Great Remington Rolling Block Buffalo Gun Project, Part 2. 17024 33-inch barrel with folding ladder rear sight, the frame with central hammer and dated 1872, three quarter length stock with steel furniture, 13 1/2-inch pull, 8lb. 0.924 minor dia. In 1894, it was sent to Carl Gustaf Stads to be converted to the new centerfire smokeless round. groove diameter of the barrel at the muzzle is 0.323" Brass n. Swedish Rolling Block. Grips; Miscellaneous Gun Parts; Rifle Barrels. 10oz. 7x57 Mauser (Remington) 2. . The overall length is approx. Phone * Verfication Details * Please provide your verification details which will be used for claim proce Catastrophic failure of barrel and breach due pressures way over the norm. CHECK YOUR HEAD SPACE DO NOT GUESS! It has an inverted V front sight and a ladder rear sight. Request more information Contact: Gavin Gardiner Limited. Receiver similar size as a Remington No. Loaded with our reformed cases (#8X58RDANISH) and a 150 grain .323" diameter bullet (#HOB3232). The rifles chambered for 8x58R Should not be fired unless you are 110% sure you are using safe ammo. almost all factory 8x58 rolling blocks were made after 1891, and the conversion of older rolling blocks to 8x58 were also done after 1891. in norway kongsberg made the M1888 karbine in 8x58, but this was only from 1888 to 1891 and only between 918 and 1185 were made. Some of the Swedish rolling blocks were updated by re-heat treating the actions, fitting a new breach block . Norov toti vyrbli R-B jen cca do roku 1883, a roku 1884 pijali zcela nov model puky . It has again given this cartridge new life. Clear. I'm not too much of a Rolling Block man, but they are cool rifles. I once had a rare Norwegian one, but it was museum-quality and I would not have felt right shooting it, so I sold it to a well-known author of rolling block books instead. Sweden implemented a major arsenal rebuilding of Remington Rolling Block rifles for the 858mmR, and Norway experimentally compared 858mmR Remington Rolling Block conversions . RELOADING FOR THE 7X57 ROLLING BLOCK 77020 I have been looking for this photo in my firearms files. 8X58R Swedish Rolling Block Questions (Read 1977 times) JerryH. Dave Morelli. Bids. / Remington 1867/89 Rolling Block Rifle, 8X58R. Currently clubless. Carlos16. In most cases these mentioned load levels exceed .30-06 load data and we must ask if they exceed the listed chamber pressures as shown in Lyman 47th Edition Reloading manual. SPF a nice example of a Husqvarna No. Add to Wishlist. BOPP #57. Carl Gustav 1889 8x58r rolling block (rare) Description: One of a kind gun given as a prize 1n 1942- stock disk reads- "Stolkholms-Tidningens 20 De Riksskyttetavling" Which is the major newspaper of Sweden and the compitition of there gun club. Add to Wish List. Antique 1867 Rolling block Sporter in 12.7x44R. It was 44 mm (1.73 inches) long. best to get a barrel stub from Ken Womack. Summary Vehicle History Report below provided by AutoCheck. The 8x58R is a rimmed, bottleneck round that looks rather like a slightly longer .45-70 round necked down to .32 caliber. The iron sights have been replaced with a custom scope mount and the stocks are custom replacements. Original Item: Only One Available. It is chambered in 8x58R Sauer (Dies, brass and bullets available from Buffalo Arms). Thanks for the info. IMR Trailboss with it's general instructions for use, also apply to your cartridge. A used Remington 1867/89 Rolling Block single-shot rifle with a 28" barrel chambered in 8X58R. Tools for ammunition manufacturing were also bought from USA. It is a hard-hitting round and is effective at close to moderate ranges. If the 8x58R is in the book, he may have case forming suggestions. Carl-Gustaf 1867 ROLLING BLOCK RIFLE - C49095 8x58Rd; 95% blue, 95% parkerized, excellent bore, very good+ stock, 33'' barrel, Manufactured in 1870, this rifle has matching numbers with a conversion date of 1895. (specifically the 8x58R - also know as the 8mm Danish Krag cartridge). The 8x58R is a rimmed, bottleneck round that looks rather like a slightly longer .45-70 round necked down to .32 caliber. Title. This rod is 30.5 inches long with slotted tip for the patch and fine machine threaded bottom to fit the rod stop. Although these were re-heat treated and new beach blocks and hammers installed, the pressure they were proofed for You might need the 45-90, or the 45 basic case. $35.00 + $25 S&H. OK actually measured my rolling block barrel tenon. Off the top of my head, these were the modern smokeless powder calibers offered by the factories that made the rifles: 1. 5 carbine in 7mm and went to work. This is currently loaded obsolete ammunition for 8x58R Danish Krag rifles with .060" headspace. Currently clubless. The 8x58R is for the old remington 1867-1889 rolling block rifle. After World War II a large quantity were sold surplus back to the US . We are open Monday - Friday from 10:00AM to 6:00PM EST Contents 1 Cartridge dimensions 2 Military history The approx. Cartridges of the World by Barnes shows incorrect Norma factory load data and grossly excessive load data for 8x58R Danish in the application of the m/1889 Swedish rolling block rifle. Date: Jan 13 2020. I did some measuring of the chamber area over the weekend using very basic methods, but feel my numbers are close, at least close enough to beg the question. 1633 Remington 1867/89 Rolling Block Rifle, 8X58R. The 8x58R Danish (and Swedish) cartridge was developed in the era of BP, with the change over to Smokeless (or semi-smokeless) Powder. Time Range This shows the historical advertised prices for similar guns on guntrader.uk over the selected time period. This example was manufactured by the government arsenal Carl Gustafs Stads Gevrsfaktori ("Rifle Factory of Carl Gustaf's town") for the Swedish Army. Antique 1867 Rolling block Sporter in 12.7x44R. 8x58R; 8x64S; 9.3x57; 9.3x62; Military Rifles; Combination Guns; Shotguns. It has barrel mounted foreward sling swivel. The upper tang is marked "KJOBENHAVN TOIHUUS 1883 . 7x57 Mauser (Remington) 2. The orginal caliber was 12x44r and was converted by the Swedish military to 8x58r. U.S. Pattern of failure appears to be consistent: no sign of fatigue (cumulative damage) cracks. This was a military cartridge adopted by Denmark & Sweden.It was also used In the "New Krag Jorgensen" rifles in 1889 . Antique 1867 Rolling block Sporter in 12.7x44R. Location: Siskiyou County, Calif. Item Number: AMO858RSAUER . What you have is a "sporterized" Swedish rolling block. Unit price / per . Remington Rolling Block For Sale Remington Rolling Block. I have just gotten a Swedish Rolling Block chambered in 8x58R. The cartridge was made from copper sheet. Grips. Made from 1867 to 1896 (slowly being phased out by the Krag Jorgensen) they were withdrawn from infantry service, converted to centerfire cartridge and issued to coast and fortress artillerymen. Share. 35" round barrel has an excellent bore. 0 Item(s) Found Item. 8x50R Lebel (Remington) It served as the standard Danish cartridge until shortly after World War 11. Shooting Swedish 8mm m/1867-89 Remington Rolling Block with and without fixed m/67-89 bayonet.Bench resting for ballistic evaluation.of the 8x58RD cartridge . In stock. The .43 Spanish rounds were pretty typical for that period of time. Please provide your business email which will be use for claim procedure. 1 - 7 of 7 Posts Recently with the Influx of surplus Rolling Block rifles by dealers such as Simpson LTD and Allan's Armory . It has an excellent bore. S58. All numbers match. Rolling block breach mechanism held. Price: $1,475.00. Swedish Rolling Block in 8X58Rd Moderators: The Double D, Viclav, Johnny Yuma, GrantR Canada, Carignan Salieres, vincent998 Share 12 posts joelblack88 4,208 156 Veteran of the Regiment Jun 01, 2020 #1 This arrived today. popular with a wide variety of bullets. August 14, 2008. One year after my first poor shooting 8x58 we try again. Take two, lets try this again. The Model 1901/02 Remington Rolling Block was made for higher pressure rifle ammunition than the earlier 1868 and 1879 rifles. Forend tip with integral bayonet lug for a #5 military rolling block Rifle. The finish on its 31" barrel has turned plumb brown and has a few blemishes, but nothing serious. This applies to the later 8x58RD such as the S&L M.38/M.42 and not to the earlier rolling block One thing I do not want to do is overly stress the rifle so I suspect I will be looking at a fairly modest load of . $35.00 +$25 S&H. -. MANUFACTURER Remington Clear NARROW YOUR SEARCH SELLER Not seen a Danish one fail before, but have seen the remains of a Swedish one and a US one. Vendor InterSurplus Regular price $495.00 Sale price $495.00 . The left rear barrel flat is marked with the serial number followed by a crown proof. It is from 1873 which I believe was the year they started making their own instead of sourcing them from Remington. Add to cart. The Model 1901/02 Remington Rolling Block was made for higher pressure rifle ammunition than the earlier 1868 and 1879 rifles. Early last month, Simpson's had quite a few Swedish 1867 Rolling Blocks for sale. Over Under (O/U) Side by Side; Semi-Automatic; Single Shot; All Firearms; Firearms Accessories. Historical firearms from around the World. -. powerful for the rolling block rifles, and a reduced charge load. This article deals with the Norwegian and Swedish Remington rolling block rifle. Cleaning Kit; . Buy REMINGTON ROLLING BLOCK, SWEDISH M-1867/89, 8x58 CALIBER ANTIQUE NO FFL: GunBroker is the largest seller of Antique Guns Collectible Firearms All: 908282370 . . View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Articles Member Join Date Oct 2012 Last On 01-29-2014 @ 11:17 PM Location Victoria BC . Joined: Oct 4 th, 2007. The 8x58R cartridge was adopted by Denmark in 1889 for the military turn-bolt Krag-Jgrgensen rifle. This is a Swedish "Moose Rifle". Off the top of my head, these were the modern smokeless powder calibers offered by the factories that made the rifles: 1. Usually .060" or .070" so we offer the ammo and brass both ways. I am requesting either brass (unlikely) or dies to form cases from 45/90 brass. Model 33 Husqvarna Rolling Block. It is very similar in power to the 11x60 Mauser round, although they are not interchangeable. We will also make a custom cleaning rod for Swedish model military rifle in 12mm cut to your specified length. Shipping calculated at . It compared favorably to other cartridges of the time . 1867/89 Rolling block sporter in 8x58R. . Off the top of my head, these were the modern smokeless powder calibers offered by the factories that made the rifles: 1. . This is the proper tip for the full size #1 or #1 1/2 sporting rifles. 2, but sleek and rounded. (8x58R) by the simple expedient of cutting . The 8x58R for rolling-block sporters was popular and the military adopted it, but in the Krag-Jrgensen rifle. 0.581 turned down to minor dia. I did some measuring of the chamber area over the weekend using very basic methods, but feel my numbers are close, at least close enough to beg the question. . Currency:CAD Category:Firearms & Military / Long Guns - Rifles Start Price:5.00 CAD Estimated At:NA. That is, a military rolling block that when it was mustered out of gov't service, was converted for civilian use, in Sweden, as a hunting rifle. I took a chance and ordered one, figuring it was a good price for a roller action alone. Celkov jsou norsk puky R-B ze vech s"skandinvskch" nejvzcnj, a to vzhledem k jejich pohnut historii, kte vedla k postupn likvidaci vtiny exempl. The calibre was 12 mm Remington, also known as 12,17x44, 12,17x42, 12,7x44, 12,7x42 or 4'''. 2009-05-19T13:52. In stock. . using a 12,7 g (196 grain) soft point and a claimed velocity. Vendor InterSurplus Regular price $495.00 Sale price $495.00 . Danish Remington Model 1867 Rolling Block Single Shot RifleThis rifle was modified from rimfire to centerfire and chambered for the 11.7x42R Danish/Remington cartridge. Regular price $395.00 Sale price $395.00 Regular price. . Rolling Block Rifles; Thompsons & M1 & M1A1 Carbines Copies; Vintage Sniper Rifles; Rifle Barrels & Gun Parts. These do use the Danish Krag Jorgensen 8mm round (8x58R). Read this article to find out more about the history and the practical use. I have some brass now for a 8x58r Swedish Arsenal Rebuild. Over Under (O/U) Side by Side; Semi-Automatic; Single Shot; All Firearms; Firearms Accessories. Officially, the Danish Remington Rolling Block rifles were phased out of the coastal artillery at the end of January, 1911, but the Danish Army museum asserts that only in the late 1940s were the last M.1867/96 Coastal Artillery and Navy Fortress rifles replaced with M.89 [Krag-Jorgensen] carbines. see attached photo. This rifle has a type four action and is totally unmarked. Item Description: Translate description Husqvarna 1867/69 rolling block, 8x58R - 1872/1984 conversion, with hard rifle case Unable to retrieve AutoCheck Summary Report, please try back later. 1867 Sweden bought 10 000 complete rifles from Remington & Son and 20 000 complete mechanisms, together with machines for the Swedish production of Remington rifles. The special lock system, is certainly one of the safest, and was subsequently used all over the world. Forend tip for a #1 Remington military rolling block rifle. No way to determine age. Description: Hard to find full stock Husqvarna Model 33 Rolling block sporting rifle. 8x58R Danish Remington. 8X58R Swedish Rolling Block Questions Mar 21 st, 2019 at 10:28am Print Post : A friend has a 8X58R Swedish Rolling Block sporting rifle and would like to shoot it. BOPP #57. Here is a Classic European License-made Remington Rolling Block Rifle, Model 1867/89. Luckily, I also have a . Antique 1867 Rolling block Sporter in 12.7x44R. Until the 1960's, Norma made a factory load in 8x58RD. Rolling Block Project. Historie. 1868 Remington cleaning rod. 0.9675 major dia. There has recently been published some data for the 8x58R Danish for use in the 1889 Swedish rolling block rifle that far exceeds safe load levels. 50.75". Posted August 25, 2020. AN 8X58R SWEDISH ROLLING BLOCK RIFLE, NO. $12.50.